Some time ago in Shen He (5⭐ Cryo, polearm).
It was this source that was the first to report that Furinu (5⭐ Hydro, one-handed sword) or Shen He.
The update should see the final expansion of the Pyro country with the addition of the Ashen Sea. It is unknown whether there will be a traditional event involving mummy girl.
Do you think it might be time for a Hydro character with a two-handed sword? Share in comments with your guesses about who the developers will decide to release, and whether you are going to save up spins for under Skirk.
Durin will definitely not be playable (Info from HXG). And even if the new character came out in 5.8 (Probably that Sumerianka), given the lack of an expansion in 5.7, he would have been released in the second stage of banners. That is, not on July 30, but on August 20. Regarding the summer event, it will be for free 4* weapons, like in 1.6. Maybe the same Golden Apple Archipelago or Mirage Veluriyam will return with the participation of Natlan characters (I bet most on Mualani).
natlan and desert top
natlan is top in quests and drops and characters are normal why is there so much negativity towards pyro lock
Because Natlan is the bottom, especially in of quests and characters. Rare exceptions do not save from the general failure.
I didn't see it
My condolences on your eyesight.
Everything is simple there, it was in the Russian segment that some bloggers said this about Natlan for the sake of hype and off it went.
And how they watered Shilonen when he came out, and then about the restrictions of Mavuika and the expectation of Skirk. And it turned out that Shilonen, Sitlali, Mavuika, and even Chaska in the top in the abyss, and they even moved Furina significantly.
Afterwards, in the latest videos, the same bloggers changed their tune at once, now Shilonen is much more versatile and Mavuika is a top DPS, and pickpocket, because you can’t argue with facts.
Moreover, taking into the transition of developers to more limited squads for selling packs of characters at once, and the leaks in the region will be even worse in a year.
Then everyone will start pouring water on him after the hype video of the same bloggers and wait for the next region
what does strength have to do with it? it would be strange if they were weaker than the previous ones, powercreeps are still there. the plot of natlan is boring compared to the same fontaine, the characters are bland, the design of the region itself is a nightmare for me. the new event in fontaine just breathed life into it and I feel like I'm falling in love with the game all over again.
Different people, different opinions. For me, Fontaine is the most boring region in of plot, only Enkanomia is worse, although it is not a full-fledged region, but still. I have an average attitude towards Natlan itself, it did not impress me, but did not disappoint me either. This is normal, but to make this region sh*t or that sh*t into an absolute is wrong, everything is subjective.
What does the region's crap and the characters' metaness have to do with it? The fact that Mavuika gives out cosmic numbers doesn't make Natlan's story any good.
The story of Natlan is better than the story of Inazuma and Mond (not counting the last patch, it finally had a good plot in Mond), at least it showed the death of people during a global disaster, and not like in Mond, where the dragon cast a tornado, but no one died, or Inazuma, where the war ended with a snap of the fingers behind the scenes, and the plot itself was a crumpled piece of shit.
An extremely big achievement, considering that Natlan's story is longer than the Mondstat and Inazuma quests combined. And what's the point of all those deaths in Natlan if they don't add any impact? Tepey's death alone in Inazuma evokes more emotion than anyone else's death in Natlan.
That is, Natlan is bad not because of the characters, meta and the rest, but precisely the story.
Well, I've seen something like this, especially after the bloggers were re-equipped.
Can you please list in detail where and in what way the story is bad and in comparison with which regions of Genshin it is so bad?
And I with Inazuma and Found which was super top. Only there it was that the story was bad and Archon Raiden was not that and much, much more, and then after boom and everything is already good, as they say memory is short
When Dainsleif comes out in 5.7, we'll see if he can pull it off.
No one has ever hated Natlan because of its meta lmao. The most they have is that Natlan characters require other Natlan characters, but that's not directly a meta issue. Just because some single NN YouTuber said it doesn't mean it's suddenly true. But here are some reasons why Natlan is complete trash.
— The war region doesn't look like a war region at all. Apart from what happened in the story itself, there's nothing there that gives that vibe. It's literally the most childish region in of design. And that affects the entire story. No matter how serious they try to make it, it all falls apart against the brightness and childishness of Natlan.
— The character designs are disgusting. Not only do they not fit into Genshin at all and are excessively fanservicey (I'm not against fanservice, but the developers' course was too obvious), but they also make no sense for Natlan specifically. There's a war going on in the region, and each of the characters wears less armor than Noel, who hasn't even managed to become a knight yet?
— The characters' overly advanced technology also makes no sense and isn't explained properly. No one ever mentioned that Natlan is even slightly advanced, but the characters have more advanced technology than Fontaine. If it's so advanced, why hasn't Fontaine ever tried to replicate it? Because it runs on energy that's only available in Natlan? How convenient, but that didn't stop them from using Kaenria's technology. And it's funny that only the game characters use it.
— Now, specifically about the story. Mavuika is a Mary Sue. She is the first human archon, and at the same time she has no flaws, she never loses. And the other characters are not too far from her.
— Almost all the characters are written extremely flatly and stereotypically
— Dead NPCs shit in almost every dialogue. What's the point of all these "deaths" if they don't make any impact, either to the player or the environment.
— The main characters are glaring too much. The plot is filled with party after party, while the real conflict is given 20 minutes at most. The pacing of the story suffers because of this.
— Almost the entire story is based on the power of friendship. Seriously? I'm not watching My Little Pony here.
— Capitano, despite his supposed importance to the plot, receives very little development and screen time.
— There are a lot of plot holes in the story. Besides the characters' technology; The fact that Natlan's leylines are disconnected from the rest of the world makes very little sense. How, for example, is Irmensul supposed to work there? Why does killing Gosoitot suddenly solve all the problems? Why is Capitano suddenly the right sacrifice instead of Mavuiki? And so on.
There are other moments you can find, but I'm too lazy, honestly. After a good plot of Sumeru and Fontaine, Natlan feels like diarrhea. Yes, it may be slightly better than Inazuma, but considering that it is twice as long, it's not a great achievement. And who, I wonder, says that Inazuma has a good story?
Everything is clearly visible in the plot, I will answer in order:
'The region of war does not look like a region of war at all' - People adapt to war that lasts for centuries, and it was strange to expect something like Mordor.
The people of Natlan are used to losses and tragedies, we see this both in individual stories so far and in Act 4 as a whole. At the same time, the Natlanians mourn, grieve, but they know that they cannot dwell on losses and need to move forward.
'The character designs are disgusting' is a complete matter of taste, as can be seen from the discussion on reddit, many people actually liked the design. Besides, it was Natlan who brought variety to the characters' gameplay.
'The characters' overly advanced technologies also make no sense and are not explained properly' everything was explained as dragon technologies, the memory of ancestors participating in ode and phlogiston.
In the latest quests it is clearly evident that the dragon civilization is not just advanced, but also heads and shoulders ahead.
'Next, specifically about the story. Mavuika is a Mary Sue. She is the first human archon, and at the same time she has no shortcomings, she never loses', it is immediately obvious that the story of Mavuika was not carried out, when she was pulled out on the brink of death by one of the detachment, who was himself on the brink, and the rest covered the retreat with their bodies. And Mavuika's sacrifice after this is her current life, family, with unclear chances of reincarnation in a desperate attempt to somehow shift the scales in the war
'Almost all characters are written extremely flatly and stereotypically' it is enough to go through and read the quests if you are interested in the development of characters
The next couple of points also have the previous answers, and the change in the pace and polarity of history has been going on in Genshin for a long time
'Almost all history is based on the power of friendship' There is an old saying that one in the field is not a warrior, and we can also recall other regions, but I don't see a region where the main character fixed everything in one person
About Capitano, for a secondary character he has already been given a lot of time, it is not clear why it should be different. About the approach in the role of a substitute victim, everything is revealed in the quests and it is quite normal
It was also explained about the ley lines that they were practically destroyed, and there are also domains in the kingdom of night for interaction. Moreover, a different location is not equal to absence.
Well, that is, nothing but excuses.
> People adapt to war that lasts for centuries
Tell that to the people who lived during the Hundred Years War, lmao. And no one talks about Mordor, but for a region where war "lasts for centuries" it seems to you that there are literally no traces of that war?
> as you can see from the discussion on reddit, many people actually liked the design
As you can see in this very reddit, there are far more complaints about the character designs of Natlan than about all other regions. And try looking somewhere other than the main sub, where most people are 10-year-old schoolchildren who do not accept any criticism. The same r/FatuiHQ, for example, you will learn a lot about Natlan. And you have not responded to my second argument.
> everything was explained as dragon technologies, the memory of ancestors participating in ode and phlogiston
So explain to me, WHY did dragons need DJ consoles and motorcycles? Moreover, if these are really ancient technologies, then again, where is there even one mention of them? Again, why didn't Fontaine repeat their technologies?
> Mavuiki, when she was on the verge of death, one of the squad, who was himself on the verge, pulled her out, and the rest covered the retreat with their bodies
Which of these things were specifically shown in the game, and not in its backstory?
> it is enough to go through and read the quests if you are interested in the development of characters
Why should I go through a character's quest separately so that he or she can be revealed? In Sumeru, Fontaine, and even Inazuma, the characters revealed themselves and showed themselves well during the main quest, and their own quests only complemented this development. In the main plot of Natlan, all the characters are just dummies, at most, Citlani still shows something, but nothing more. If you really think that you need to go through side quests so that the characters are interesting, then this only proves my words.
> a change in the pace and polarity of history has been going on in Genshin for a long time
But in Sumeru and Fontaine there were no such problems.
> There is an old saying that one is not a warrior in the field, and we can also recall other regions, but I don’t see a region where the main character fixed everything on his own
The power of friendship and help from other characters are different things.
> About Capitano, for a secondary character he has already been given a lot of time
Something is not noticeable during this time.
> About the approach as a substitute for the victim, everything is revealed in the quests and is quite normal
Well then explain to me how it works
> It was also explained about the ley lines that they were practically destroyed
How does this answer my question? How does Irmensul work with these lines if they are not properly connected to it?
Dialogue with another point of view, now justification, mm I don’t even see the point in commenting.
And again, where did you get the idea that a people living in a war with the abyss of a millennium cannot be exactly like that? And the fact that the tracks are not everywhere is a simple game convention, as in Fontaine, as well as in Tumeru and Inazuma.
Next about reddit, it is not worth citing a subreddit with a small number of participants as an example. But take the offline thread of genshin with millions of participants, and the topics of negativity are rare and do not gain much. But praise, on the contrary, has thousands of likes and thousands of comments, does not look like total hate.
About the character and his quests, do not complete the chain and then be surprised. After all, the rest will not be one-dimensional without completing the quests. And then there are exclamations, aa the lore is boring, aa the character is not that, aa children's fairy tales, when each next region is darker and darker for Mikhoe.
As for Capitano, it's enough to scroll through Reddit, no one really needs him there. And from the point of view of an extra, he already has enough time.
And why can't the Irminsul interact with the Natlan? Can there be at least some indication from the game about this, or were these just guesses again, and when it doesn't match, it means it's wrong.
And about the characters, probably Harlequin, Neville, Clorinda, Raiden, Nahida, Skara and all the others without side quests are not one-dimensional. But with a side quest, and you get depth, and many people like this, just go through the official reddit.
About technologies, why should they suddenly appear in Fontaine? Piece production, moreover, manual, it is strange to expect distribution in such a case
And finally, only a few shouted loudly against the backdrop of hype video bloggers, the majority perceives and plays perfectly
> And the fact that the tracks are not everywhere is a simple game convention, as in Fontaine, as well as in Tumera and Inazuma.
It's funny that there are more traces of war in Inazuma than in Natlan, although there hasn't been any war there for hundreds of years))) In general, "game convention" is not an argument at all. All previous regions adequately conveyed their features.
> But praise, on the contrary, thousands of likes and thousands of comments, does not look like total hate.
Obviously, because the main crowd of Genshin defenders is concentrated on the off-reddit, as I said. But, okay, even if you want to judge by Main Sub, then compare the number of negative posts regarding Natlan and previous regions. There are many times more of them regarding Natlan.
> And about the characters, probably Harlequin, Neville, Clorinda, Raiden, Nahida, Skara and all the others without side quests are not one-dimensional.
Yes, not one-dimensional. All of the above get their main development in the main plot, and their own quests only complement it. (Scaramucchi doesn't have his own quest, by the way). Or do you really think that the whole essence of Nahida was revealed in her quest for legends, and in the main plot she was an empty shell without any backstory?
> As for Capitano, it's enough to scroll through Reddit, no one really needs him there
Are we talking about the same Reddit? Of all the social networks, it is Reddit that glares at Capitano the most. Moreover, in a huge number of posts and comments (yes, even on the main one), many say that Capitano is the only Natlan character they like.
> And why can't the Irminsul interact with the Natlan? Can there be at least some indication from the game about this, or were there just guesses again, and when it doesn't match, it means it's wrong.
Do you know the definition of the phrase "plot hole"? There are literally NO indications of this in the game, and that's the complaint. If Natlan's lines aren't properly connected to the rest of the world, then they aren't connected to Irmensul, and that means technically no one should Natlan, based on the information that was given in the game before.
> About technologies, why should they suddenly appear in Fontaine?
Why shouldn't they appear there? Fontaine is home to many brilliant engineers who have managed to recreate Kaenria's technology. Do you think any of them would want to recreate the dragon technology, which you say is more advanced?
> And finally, only a few shouted loudly against the backdrop of hype video bloggers, the majority perceives and plays perfectly
Yes, because most Genshin players are normies who will eat everything they are given, and they have never played really normal games so much that they have nothing to compare it to. But yes, bloggers are to blame for everything, and in fact, everything is great in the game. Denial is the first stage of acceptance.
Who is moving Furina where?))) She is a . Shilo is a , Sitlali is a . You might as well say that Kazuha is no longer needed, and Iansan is better than Bennet)))
I won't say anything about the region - it's fine for me, and in general: less expectations == less disappointments. Mava's character was just not revealed at all...
But the fact that the developers are going down the path of reducing variability is sad.Reducing variability is when possible packs are closed at the level of ives and mechanics (Night Spirit). It started, if I'm not mistaken, with Chevreuse, who "revived" the overload. Then Night Spirit, because of which the new set of arts simply does not work on anyone except Natlan. Now Skirk has only a freeze. This is sad. Only the Chinese themselves can do something about this, because the developers do not pay much attention to everyone else.
…not a single person in the world said this.
If this was a new xsr or zzz location, there would be zero complaints about it (from Genshinyats like me and from the rest)
And so it looks like an alien object, and not only because of the motorcycle, roller skates and other things from the 21st century, but because of everything taken together
Like a third leg attached, it looks like a leg, but it seems out of place, because a person has two of them
no need for new ones except for squirts
Since Skirk plays mostly from normal attacks, they forgot about the strong hydro character, Elan. If I don't like this new hydro or there aren't enough spins, then with Skirk I'll have Escoffier, Furina and Elan.
Elan also fits well under Arli/Rizli/Butons. If the new character is purely for Skirk, then this is the easiest skip, Nescafe is enough for her
Let's hope that there will be hydro , then Skirk will at least have minimal variability in squad construction
Release Dahlia < release another fanservice out of thin air. Nothing changes...
So Dahlia will be released in 5.7
It's understandable. 4* are buried. They may not be released. Like in HSR
The main thing is that the new cryoviks are not given the wretched mechanics from Natlan, which forces them to play only in packs with their own tribesmen, giving access to packs exclusively to universal s like Furina
It's completely nonsense when Fontaine even resurrected healers from oblivion (not to mention just old people), and Natlan made absolutely everyone who is not from this region useless
In general, the developers heard and nailed the cryovik Skirk to the Escoffier. Without it, Skirk looks worse than Rizli for now, at least you can collect any packs from him and the numbers in melting will be better than Skirk without Escoffier.
I at the start of Mavuiki there were cries about limitations, but as it turned out there was still plenty of freedom, because Skirk will turn out even worse.
And taking into the developers' words about the Nord region and taking into Skirk in Nord it will not be better
Well, I'll skip both of them, I don't care about their appearance or lore at all.
I can't wait for the North Edge Persians, I hope there will be interesting models without neural network generated designs
Everything is so, sister. Everything will be as you say.
You certainly piled on a lot of cringe...
As a result, in the Pyro region, except for the archon, there is NOT A SINGLE Pyro character. Zbs.
It's strange that you weren't confused by the fact that there are fewer anemo characters in the anemo region than in the geo. Speaking of the geo region, in addition to the archon, there was a whole 1 geo character in the geo region for 1,5 years. We have more geo characters from Inazuma than in the geo region.
In Mondstadt, not counting Venti, there are two anemo, in Liyue - one, so it is not clear what is embarrassing. This is firstly. Secondly, it is not about who is more or less, but about the fact that, besides the archons, at least someone with the same element was given. In Natlan, except for Mavuika, there are no pyro-characters. None at all.
In addition, each region followed the principle - the archon and ruler of the same element and the opposite gender. Mond - Venti and Jin. Li Yue - Zhong and Ninka. Inazuma (everything broke) - Raiden and Yae/Ayato. Sumeru - Nahida and Haytham. Fontaine - Furina and Neva. And in Natlan there is no such thing. That's why the region failed.
Let's not forget that we don't have Dendro Mondstadt, Geo Sumerovets, or Hydro Two-Handed from any region. Here's who we should expect.
is there a chance that this is Bonanas?
There is a small chance, but it is better not to count on it 🙁
I'll try a squad of Skirk, Esk, Dahlia and Mona (no Truck).
Elan and/or Siny will probably be stronger
Blue is clearly stronger than Dahlia
Dalia has one definite plus for such clumsy people as me - a trampoline from which you can jump on Shiloboss without a kachina/awl in a pack 🙂 it's even a pity to skip banners, but chow, it will fall out someday